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Had the smart for 2 mths now 2003 Passion and am very pleased ! BUT, I noticed at the weekend the steering has become very stiff, and when the head lights are on they have developed a sort of wurring noise ......
Any suggestions, as the steering is quite a worry

Michael

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March 21st, 2007, 8:25 pm
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Where the steering column goes through the front of the car and angles down into the rack, that universal joint is the most common place for the column to seize. You can try to unseize it with some penetrating oil and then grease it when it's free.

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Is it possible that there are recalls outstanding on this car, has it got a Mercedes
service history? May be worth taking it to Smart and get them to check for any?
This is only an idea :?

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iv never tought about old recalls are there many?

and can you just take your smart in and they will check it for you?

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March 22nd, 2007, 10:47 pm
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When I bought my first one I took it to the local dealer
and they identified 4 recalls that they did free and when
I got the car I have now they did one. I had to book the
car in each time, they didn't do it there and then. My cars
were both fairly old 2000 and 2001 maybe there are no
recalls on later mk's, just an idea! :)

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March 22nd, 2007, 11:31 pm
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you can ring up your local smart centre with your chassis number and they will check and let you know on the phone, might save a journey


March 23rd, 2007, 10:55 am
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Also I have a steering problem. :(

Have had my smart ForTwo for 42 ! mounths now. It's a 2002 Pulse (EZ=0209)
and I'm extremely pleased ! I noticed a few days ago the steering has become
stiffer. Today I changed wintertires to summer dito and during that job I did
losen the front undertray (4 screws and the spoiler-snaps), bended soft the tray
down and took the steering shockabsorber away. No problems with that part so
now I'm closer to know what corses the stiffnes. It must be either the thingy
that we call "Polhems knot" or it's the steering rack. Can an unprofessional like
me do something to solve the problem. The steering rack has a "hat" seal wich
I can move upwards to the "Polhems knot". If anyone have pictures I would
apprechiate Your help, or maybe You can explain in EASY english what to do,
because I'm lausy in Your wild language.

Regards, Cc-L



Last edited by Kofångar-Lasse on May 12th, 2007, 1:00 am, edited 1 time in total.



March 24th, 2007, 9:30 pm
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Hi,

I think you mean the Steering's "universal joint". Yes this can cause the steering to be dificult to turn, but there are several other things that can also give the problem

1. The Universal Joint on the steering column
2. The Steering Rack
3. The Steering Damper
4. The Ball joints on the Track rod ends
5. The ball joints on the bottom of the shock absorbers.

To test if it is the universal joint on the steering rack, you will have to disconnect the steering column from the steering rack and then see if the both joints on the universal joint are free and not stiff. Cure can be as simple as oiling all the joints or else it is a replacement with another one.

The steering rack can get holes in the gaiters (Rubber bits) which let water in and the grease out, result - rust which make it stiff. Test by jacking the car up at the front, taking off the tie rod ball joints and turning hte steering wheel, should turn nice and freely to full lock both directions. Cure, if it is only a little bit rusty / stiff then new grease put in will improve things, but as long as there are holes in the gaiters, you will allways have trouble. Best cure - new rack

The Steering damper can lose the internal seal and either fill up with water / gunk and become stiff or more likely, lose all the oil inside which means it is not doing its job properly. Test by removing from car and trying to strech and compress it, it should only allow you to do so slowly any sudden actions should result in very little movement.

Ball joints on the track rod ends can develop cuts in the rubber sleeve which allows water in and so rusts the internals. Test, using a ball joint splitter remove the tie rod ends from the ball joints and move the ball joints around by hand. If they do not feel smooth then they need replacing. Do all four (4) and be do with it!

The same for all the other ball joints on the front end. To be honest, they don't cost that much each and even if the old ones don't feel terrible, putting new ones in will make the car feel nicer to drive!

They are only held in by two bolts each and you get those with the kit when you buy it from Smart / MB / Spart Parts Direct / or who ever.

Sorry this is such a long post, just trying to cover all the things which give heavy steering (been there, done that!)

Regards,

John


March 25th, 2007, 7:23 pm
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Tank You John ! :)
Yes, You made a long post but it was very well informative - just as I needed,
because my native language is Swedish. Thanks again !
Now I learned new words: Universal Joint and Steering Damper.
Hopefully I can sort out the problem without taking the whole front of the
car to pieces. I need the car daily and don't want to take the bicycle.
(Downhill to work is OK, but uphill home is a nightmare :( - absolute !)

Regards,
Cowcatcher-Lasse



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